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3:57 pm
May 13, 2011
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Tom Ryan
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Post edited 10:54 am – March 16, 2012 by Tom Ryan
Here is the link to the ** you don't have permission to see this link **! I hope you see why it took us so long to complete. It's a wonderful kickstart to the quality that you can expect from NHG and Myth & Magic …
And, it's free …
I know, we're crazy.
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4:46 pm
May 13, 2011
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Happy Grog
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The thing looks amazing…
I can't wait to see what you've done.
Great cover!
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4:47 pm
May 13, 2011
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dm4hire
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I like what I'm seeing so far. One question that quickly comes to mind glancing through the PDF: will this format hold for the final books so that the GM book will be part monster manual? I'm hoping it will.
Another question I'm not sure has been asked or not, when preorders go active for the final book will those of us who preorder be able to get the final PDF free or at reduced cost?
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"Whatever doesn't kill you will probably turn you into a vampire, a werewolf, or a zombie." – Me
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4:53 pm
May 13, 2011
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Tom Ryan
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Yes to both.
The full Game Master's Guide will be part monster manual and any member pre-orders for print products will come with a free PDF.
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5:53 pm
May 13, 2011
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Garmel
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Very nice read so far. The artwork is heads above what it was.
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6:11 pm
May 13, 2011
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Arolle
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This looks absolutely incredible! Thanks a lot for this, I´ll be devouring the content as soon as I can.
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9:47 pm
May 13, 2011
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HawkWolf
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I have been quite busy lately as the editor-in-chief of Justen Brown's 600 page For Gold & Glory (even putting my own projects on hold again), so I don't have time to read the whole thing completely at this time. I have, however, skimmed the new starter kit, and I love the overall look, and as usual I'm here with some hopefully helpful quick observations.
The cover is awesome, but really needs to be in color! I really like the interior illustrations. The paragraph layout gets a little sloppy per "my standards", but "my standards" do tend to tack on quite a few extra pages but provides easier readability. I think the size of the interior illustrations could also be improved using some layout tricks, but again pages get added. I may have mentioned this before, but be careful of trying to be all things to all people. For instance, allowing "a dwarf to be the first ever dwarven wizard" will please several GMs and players, but you might want to mention that it causes the loss of the Dwarf's innate magic resistance (you can't have it both ways!). If every new advantage does not carry a corresponding disadvantage, it will generally lead to "munchkinism".
Thanks for all your hard work. Where FG&G is a straight-up, unapologetic 2e clone, Myth & Magic is not, it is something different.
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10:39 pm
May 13, 2011
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Tom Ryan
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Thanks for the insight Hawk and it's good to hear you're busy.
BTW: the covers for the starter guides are purposefully greyscale – it ends there though – full color for the real stuff ;)
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1:17 pm
May 14, 2011
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Beragon
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Just downloaded. Looking forward to digging into it. Thanks Tom and Josh. Great cover art!
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8:14 pm
May 14, 2011
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Wow! Looks like you've been busy!
When do you expect preorders might open up?
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10:13 am
May 15, 2011
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HawkWolf said:
I have been quite busy lately as the editor-in-chief of Justen Brown's 600 page For Gold & Glory (even putting my own projects on hold again), so I don't have time to read the whole thing completely at this time. I have, however, skimmed the new starter kit, and I love the overall look, and as usual I'm here with some hopefully helpful quick observations.
The cover is awesome, but really needs to be in color! I really like the interior illustrations. The paragraph layout gets a little sloppy per "my standards", but "my standards" do tend to tack on quite a few extra pages but provides easier readability. I think the size of the interior illustrations could also be improved using some layout tricks, but again pages get added. I may have mentioned this before, but be careful of trying to be all things to all people. For instance, allowing "a dwarf to be the first ever dwarven wizard" will please several GMs and players, but you might want to mention that it causes the loss of the Dwarf's innate magic resistance (you can't have it both ways!). If every new advantage does not carry a corresponding disadvantage, it will generally lead to "munchkinism".
Thanks for all your hard work. Where FG&G is a straight-up, unapologetic 2e clone, Myth & Magic is not, it is something different.
Can you give us any insight on the monster section of FG&G. Is it going to be straight 2e MM or the entire OGL collection that he has listed on the website?
@NHG- Another round of applause on your progress!
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10:27 am
May 15, 2011
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Wow, after a quick skim I have to say, WOW! The cover is pretty incredible and interior work is snappy as well. Safron really hit the nail on the head. Love the Kobold. As to the content, I will have to go through it later, it does look promising.
I would like to print some of these up, but IIRC you said there will inevitably be some minor errata after it is released. Will the Players Starter Guide also be "updated" to reflect any changes before the next phase of your project? Is it possible to "draw a line in the sand" at some point and say they are "final?"
Cheers 
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6:06 am
May 16, 2011
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HawkWolf
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** you don't have permission to see this link **
Sorry, if this link gets posted twice. It didn't seem to go through the first time. I went back to DF, and answered that question, more fully.
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7:01 pm
May 16, 2011
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Maliki
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This looks great. I really hope I get a chance to actually play this someday, this could be the system I have been looking for.
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5:42 pm
May 22, 2011
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naturaltwenty
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Looks very good! Time to print, bind and consume:)
Later,
Greg Volz
Natural Twenty Games
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8:10 pm
May 22, 2011
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Tom Ryan
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Welcome aboard Greg!
Glad you've joined the Campaign!
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11:04 am
May 25, 2011
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Tom Ryan
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A web update has been posted today, May 25th.
You can find it plugged into the very first post above or on the homepage.
Thanks.
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1:33 pm
May 25, 2011
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dgunther
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Very nicely done on the monster update. There was one line that I read that sums up the stat block perspective nicely:
The last decade of OGL gaming has branded our brains to see attribute mods as the basic building block of an entire monster.
That's part of the OGL I'd like to stomped into a bloody gory mess. Be that as it may, the extra info will help gamers from the OGL era to better grasp M&M.
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4:04 pm
May 25, 2011
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Tom Ryan
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My thoughts exactly.
You'll notice that our Str and Dex mods never changes CAM and AC, so we've effectively "stomped" it
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8:43 pm
May 25, 2011
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Beragon
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I like it. I like it alot. I think I'll just keep CAM for saves myself, but the new attribute mods really help.
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